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Double Fine Action ForumsenCopyright 20142014-03-07T04:26:31-08:00Good (enough) answers for Act 1’s questions! [WITH SPOILERS]
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/12990/#When:10:20:08Z<p>These are my guesses to the questions raised by Act 1. They are both logical and simple. And <b>spoiler heavy</b>, please take caution. Even if the official explanations we’ll get in the second act won’t be exactly equal to these ones, they’ll most probably have parts of these answers in them (because they simply make a lot of sense):</p>
<p><b>*** SPOILERS BELOW (also for act 2, I guess) ***</b></p>
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<p><b>What is a Mog Creature?</b><br />
As we found out from the game, the Mog is actually mechanical and only looks organic from the outside. Inside of it there’s Shay’s fake space ship surrounded by a space panorama hologram - we can see this when Vella steps inside the Mog mouth (that afterwards closes); there are stars and universe blackness fading out towards the mouth’s hexi-wall. Also some hexi plates have dislodged revealing a bright background. So the Mog is actually a doubly-deceiving artificial creature: to Shay the Mog is a space ship and to everyone outside of it it’s a sea monster that eats people. A small initial clue are the red eyes - they are hexagonal, just like almost everything on Shay’s ship.</p>
<p><b>Who is Marek?</b><br />
He says he is a recent stowaway. Because we know that Shay’s ship is not in space but inside the Mog mechanical creature that means that either Marek has been eaten by the Mog or he is lying about it. He knows way too much stuff about the Mom computer and the (fake) ship’s “tech” to be an outsider. That means he is someone that was there when the Mog/ship creature was built or reiterated or someone that saw enough cycles to really understand everything about the artificial creature. My best guess is that Marek is the Moon Father. Because: the father doesn’t appear often enough in the game and would seem a waste of a character; the father says at the beginning something like “.. your Mom, you know how she is.” meaning that they do not share the same principles; it would explain how Marek knows every detail of how the ship works; it would be up to a dad to teach the kid how to “hunt”; Marek often calls Shay “young cub” with a dad-like affection; pushes Shay out of harm’s way (falling debris) with a parental concern; the dad moon ball appears at window edges all playfully, giving you a stealth/undercover feel; dad moon and Marek are never both in the same screen.</p>
<p><b>Why I think Marek is NOT the mom?</b> (even though Marek and mom are/could be in close cooperation):<br />
she would have a hard time to not call Shay “sweetie” and stuff like that; she would never push her son into making hard decisions; also, it would be very illogical for her to all of a sudden go against herself with a sudden change in attitude and goals.</p>
<p><b>What is it with all the weird stuff: talking trees, people living on clouds, the ship working on “yarn tech”?</b><br />
The “yarn tech” is fake because Shay’s ship is fake. There is no universe traveling and no bending/knitting of time and space, the Mog just travels from town to town on the same planet. The talking tree is more interesting because it is said that the trees started talking recently. So there is some sort of reality distortion here. Maybe the plague dam separates one type of affliction (a sickness) from another different type of affliction (magic infiltrating reality). People that walk and live on top of clouds seems like magic to me. Also, all these towns and people are poorly tech advanced. Feels like a “Longest Journey” vibe but maybe that is not the case.</p>
<p><b>What is the purpose of the Mog?</b><br />
It is said that Mogs come from beyond the plague dam. That means that there are parts of that world where people and creatures could be suffering from some sort of sickness. Marek says that the captured creatures are stored on the ship in quarantine because they could be sick OR because Shay may be sick and should not get the creatures infected. Why does a Mog come every 14 years? Maybe because there is a need for young girls every 14 years. Why just girls and not boys also? Also, why is it that Shay is alone on a ship with just a mom and a dad computer? Shouldn’t there be some living and breathing adults beside him? The obvious answer comes in the form of that certain sickness. I think Shay is sick and may not live past 15 or 16 years old. I also think Shay is the last of his people, not counting Alex. The only way the people from beyond the plague dam can preserve their knowledge and tech is by sending a Mog with a young boy to the other parts, and capture girls with the best traits. The hope is that, eventually, a new baby without the sickness will be born. This sickness is confirmed by the fact that there is only one boy (Shay), not many, and also there are NO adults on the ship. This is very dark, but I guess the captured maidens are used for impregnation and usually the born kids also carry the virus, thus the need for the Mog to return again in 14 years. The last impregnated girl was the Mom computer. She gave birth to Shay, then immediately died (from the sickness). But not before her memories were extracted into the Mom computer. The Moon Dad was the previous ship commandeering boy. How come some people do not get sick (like Alex)? People that live outside the “plague” zones, don’t get the “dead by 15” virus. However their REALITY kind of gets sick, meaning that magic starts to occur, and that prevents any tech advancement. That explains the hostile talking trees that oppose wood crafting and the other weird stuff. Alex landed in such zone (300 years ago) and could not communicate properly with the people so he went into cryo. Also, the first human ship ever to land in that world happened even longer ago, otherwise there couldn’t have been any people for Alex to meet.</p>
<p>Tell me what you think about these theories.
</p>2014-02-03T10:20:08-08:00ACT 2 puzzle/item Theory(s) [spoilers]
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13214/#When:15:58:17Z<p>C’rol drops her knife through the clouds, which should land somewhere in The Forrest (given that Meriloft is above it)<br />
My theory is it landed in the area beyond the snake and will be an instrument in a puzzle for Shay in Act 2!</p>
<p>Also, Shay mentioned the hexopal vacuum (from the kitchen) is the only machine capable of opening the garbage chute after he climbed in when he was two. Pretty sure that could be a useful puzzle solution for Vella.</p>
<p>And through Marek, Shay could communicate with Vella via his ear piece OR Vella could spy on Shay without his knowledge. </p>
<p>Anyone notice any other items that will be used in Act 2?
</p>2014-02-14T15:58:17-08:00When will there be german voices released?
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13387/#When:00:33:14Z<p>When the game was founded the specifications spoke of localized versions of it.<br />
Now part one is releadsed.<br />
I became a backer because I want to play it in complete german language.<br />
Subtitels are not enough.</p>
<p>When will they be released?
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/12873/#When:13:47:47Z<p>I played Broken Age, the Vella part up to the cloud-world and I was really really shocked by the sacrifice scene. <br />
It seems like it’s normal for the family /villagers to lost lives for that beast. Death is nothing special.<br />
“We’ll miss your sense of humor” ... but it’s such a great honor to be sacrificed for that creepy chowhound!! Really? <br />
Dad is proud. Little sister doesn’t really know what to expect or finds joy in Vella’s misfortune (Schadenfreude). <br />
Why certainly! Grandma takes it for granted!<br />
Only Grandpa and Vella herself feel that something is wrong here. Although… Vella almost gladly put on her cupcake-costume later. Hey, Happy Cadaver Carnival everybody! “Can I take a sip from your bottle?” ... “Yes, just take it! I don’t need it where I’m going!” <i>Slusssshhh</i></p>
<p>And how dedicated to a feast/sacrifice/religion can a mother be? <br />
The whole family should burst out in tears knowing that their most precious member is going to be wasted for moggie mog.
</p>2014-01-28T13:47:47-08:00I missed the backer peroid, is there any way I can get access to the documentary now?
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/11633/#When:15:14:24Z<p>Title pretty much says it all, I hope I don’t just have to wait, or that I missed the boat on this one.
</p>2014-01-11T15:14:24-08:00Video Review from the A.V. Club/Gameological Society
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13417/#When:15:23:51Z<p>As part of their monthly “Digest” series, John Teti and guest discuss their impressions of the first half of Broken Age, and some kind of yeast paste from England, enjoy!</p>
</p>2014-02-26T15:23:51-08:00congrats on getting act 2 fully funded!
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13371/#When:07:10:55Z<p>act 1 sold well:<br />
</p>2014-02-22T07:10:55-08:00Operation Dandelion [SPOILERS & Potential wild goose chase]
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13141/#When:04:15:52Z<p>Hi guys, I finished this last night and got mind blown by the ending (even though my girlfriend guessed right) so I immediately had to look up explanations/answers. There are so many questions. Now I read the thread about the speculation of the Mog creature and why this cycle is happening but I have questions that differ.</p>
<p>First off there’s Operation Dandelion. It’s mentioned twice in the game. Once in Shays story and again in Vella’s story. What is Operation Dandelion and why that name?</p>
<p>So to google: in Literature, Operation Dandelion appears in a book called “The man in the high castle”. It’s a story about an alternative timeline where in WWII the Axis win, so the world is ruled by the Nazi’s and Japanese. Also inside the novel there is another novel that reflects our timeline (with some differences). In the story Operation Dandelion is a plan for the Nazi’s to Attack Japan’s Islands. It is assumed that Operation Dandelion is a reflection of Operation Sealion which is a real life plan for the Nazi’s invading the British Isles during WWII.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the only reference in literature to Operation Dandelion is in this book. There aren’t many reference to the plant life in Broken Age. It also feels safe to assume that the land that Vella walks on is island like in its nature. Shell mound is clearly a peninsula and the Maidens feasts are always by the coast as Mog Chothra always approaches by sea. I believe this is a direct reflection here and Operation Dandelion isn’t a mission to find a new home, but some sort of mission to attack these specific isles.</p>
<p>The novel, The man in the high castle also features Hexagrams. Notably one that means inner-truth. This also suggests why everything by design on the Spaceship is Hexagon based.</p>
<p>Second, who the hell is Alex? It seems obvious to me that his appearance 300 years ago starts the cycle of the Mogs appearing. He knew that sugar bunting was a warrior village called steel bunting. Referencing the history that the Granpa talks about. So as far as I can see there are two reasons for Alex being in Shellmound. He is actually from space Or he was one of the first Mogs involved in Operation Dandelion.</p>
<p>If he is from space then why does the Mog Chothra “program” mimic his actions? Alex talks about how he tried hacking the spaceship, but something went wrong and it crashed onto the planet. This is exactly what Shay is doing as directed by the program. Why would this computer program need to replicate the circumstances of Alex’s adventures. Is it supposed to be a simulation? And how would the Mog Chothra program be started? The ship/beast looks like it could fit inside the Pyramid.</p>
<p>But then if he is the first Mog then this makes the story more interesting. First his ship is much different to Mog Chothra. Mog Chothra is designed to pick up “cargo” but what do we know about “Mog Pyramid”? We know Alex was “hacking” the ship in a similar way that Shay has been hacking Mog Chothra. Shay is directed to use a boom arm to pick up maidens on the islands. Alex however has been directed to scan the islands. When you meet him that’s the device he talks about. But what went wrong with Mog Pyramid to make it crash into Shellmound?</p>
<p>If Operation Dandelion is an attack or invasion on Vella’s lands from afar then the second scenario makes more sense. You’d send a scanning Mog first, then you’d send your attack Mogs. The warrior tribes definitely fought back at some point, but then ended up in this cycle we see in the game. Damn I can’t wait for act 2.
</p>2014-02-11T04:15:52-08:00Dialogue Progression Nitpicks
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/13317/#When:02:13:22Z<p>These are nitpicks, but stand out in my mind.</p>
<p>I’ve played through Act I about six times now, and there are two instances - both in Vella’s story - where characters end up knowing each other’s names for no reason. The first is Gus. Vella talks to Walt’r and Ch’t about Gus, so she knows who he is when she finds him (as long as she *did* talk to them…), but her dialogue options with him never include anything naming him as Gus (“You’re in trouble, young man.”), and his responses never indicate that he’s Gus, and hers never name her as Vella. Meanwhile, when you drop through the weak butt spot to knock him onto the Whoops-A-Birdie guard, he says “Hey, Vera, can you drop me off at the arcade?” While I initially assumed this was Gus being dumb and failing to get her name right, she never tells him her name during dialogue progression. Meanwhile, if this is some sort of pun or play on words, I can’t figure out what it’s referencing (sorry!).</p>
<p>The second instance is Curtis. I love the Curits scene, but there is no point during which Vella names herself, yet by the end of the conversation Curtis calls her Vella. He can’t be so hipster that he knew her name before she was cool…</p>
<p>One final nitpick is the progression in Vella’s opening scene in the house. I feel like dialogue about Mog Chothra is just all over the place. Depending on what character you talk to, you get very random bits of information about the Maiden’s Feast and the Mogs, until you talk to Levina and Brommel. Otherwise, Vella is almost randomly suggesting to kill Mog Chothra, but then even when she talks to Levina she gets scolded for not paying attention during Maiden Training, suggesting that she should know everything we’re prompting this character to ask about. I feel like no one in the room should have dialogue progression beyond questions about the knife until she talks to Levina, so she has proper knowledge of the Mogs and the history of the Maiden’s Feast, but the puzzle shouldn’t end until she’s asked the other characters about Mog Chotrha following that revelation, so there’s a proper build-up to her wanting to fight the monster.
</p>2014-02-19T02:13:22-08:00Considering bringing Broken Age to the Windows Store / Surface tablets?
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/12791/#When:04:02:31Z<p>I was wondering, when you guys are done with releasing this game for the promised platforms. Would you please consider to release Broken Age to the Windows Store (ARM) I got myself a Surface 2 tablet and i would love to play this game on my tablet.</p>
<p>With kind regards,</p>