--- title: PsychOdyssey EP31 - “Making the Best of It” date: 2023-01-24T10:46:00-08:00 author: Harper Jay canonical_url: "https://www.doublefine.com/dftv/psychodyssey-ep31-making-the-best-of-it" section: DFTV Videos --- [Watch on YouTube: Making the Best of It](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOs-YyC-_R4) [View transcript ](https://www.doublefine.com/dftv/psychodyssey-ep31-making-the-best-of-it#transcript) # Making the Best of It Intense political happenings, raging wildfires and general unrest cast a dark shadow over the studio as they struggle to finish Psychonauts 2. 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You like that? 45 secondsAndy, are you okay? 47 seconds\[MUSIC\] 1 minute and 19 secondsGood morning, everybody! 1 minute and 21 secondsThis is just like every other week, 1 minute and 22 secondsand everything is totally normal, and there is nothing weird about this. 1 minute and 27 secondsGoogle just said that they are not going to reopen 1 minute and 29 secondsuntil July 2021, right? 1 minute and 31 secondsOh my god! 1 minute and 33 secondsANDY: We are down anywhere from thirty to fifty percent. 1 minute and 37 secondsCARYL: You know, this game, from what I've seen, 1 minute and 39 secondscould go on forever. 1 minute and 40 secondsI agree, but we also can't pick a date the team doesn't believe in again. 1 minute and 43 secondsLISETTE: They are ready for, like: "Just tell me how to finish." 1 minute and 48 secondsTIM: Let me ask first. 1 minute and 50 secondsDo you have a catchy name for this milestone yet? 1 minute and 53 secondsNo. 1 minute and 54 secondsTIM: Because, I think, it's-- It's Alpha, isn't it? 1 minute and 56 secondsRight? Because we've gotta tell the team something really big and clear, I think, 1 minute and 59 secondsfor a lot of decisions that come down the road, 2 minutes and 0 secondsand people are thinking about what they are working on. 2 minutes and 2 secondsLike, it's-- it's-- This is-- 2 minutes and 4 secondsThis is basically the milestone that: 2 minutes and 5 seconds"Anything that's not in is not going to go in, 2 minutes and 7 secondsunless there is a really serious discussion about it." 2 minutes and 9 seconds-Right? -Correct. 2 minutes and 11 secondsTIM: This December is a really special month for the project, 2 minutes and 14 secondsbecause it's our last chance to put anything new in the game. 2 minutes and 18 secondsBecause all the levels are in the game, obviously. 2 minutes and 20 secondsThere is a bunch of cutscenes that aren't in the game yet. 2 minutes and 22 secondsANDY: I don't think we'll have all the animation in, 2 minutes and 24 secondsbecause I don't think we'll have all the writing in. 2 minutes and 26 secondsNot to put you on the spot, 2 minutes and 27 secondsbut there is still writing that doesn't exist, so. 2 minutes and 32 secondsThat's-- that's not that much. 2 minutes and 33 secondsBut, I mean, that's not Alpha. 2 minutes and 34 secondsJust a little bit. 2 minutes and 36 secondsYeah. 2 minutes and 38 secondsAnd I will be honest with this group... 2 minutes and 41 secondsI have a reluctance to say this is Alpha, because... 2 minutes and 45 secondswe've done this... 2 minutes and 46 secondstwice... 2 minutes and 47 secondsin the past to this team. 2 minutes and 48 secondsAnd I don't want to do it a third time, because it's not true. 2 minutes and 53 secondsI mean, I've had it said to my face many times on this project: 2 minutes and 57 seconds"Yeah, I've heard that before, Andy." 3 minutes and 0 seconds-Yeah. -And, I think... 3 minutes and 2 secondsSo, I'm-- 3 minutes and 3 secondsForgive me, all, if I am a little reluctant 3 minutes and 5 secondsto just get up in front of the team on Friday and say: 3 minutes and 7 seconds"Hey, everybody, this next milestone is Alpha." 3 minutes and 9 secondsI don't want to lie to people and say we are at Alpha, when we are not. 3 minutes and 11 secondsBut I also don't want people to feel 3 minutes and 12 secondsthat it's possible to add features next milestone. 3 minutes and 15 seconds\[ANDY SIGHS\] 3 minutes and 17 secondsI like that we've totally broken the production process so much, 3 minutes and 19 secondswe can't even use the language of it anymore. 3 minutes and 21 seconds\[GEOFF CHUCKLES\] 3 minutes and 23 secondsANDY: Tim, if you get up in front of the team and say: 3 minutes and 26 seconds"We are approaching what's probably going to be 3 minutes and 28 secondsone of the most important milestones we've had thus far, 3 minutes and 30 secondsso let's talk about what that means." 3 minutes and 33 secondsI think that's the team meeting on Friday. 3 minutes and 35 seconds\[MUSIC\] 4 minutes and 5 secondsI hope everyone is doing okay today too. 4 minutes and 7 secondsBecause it's super smoky. 4 minutes and 8 secondsUm... 4 minutes and 10 secondsIs it pretty bad kind of all up and down the area for everyone? 4 minutes and 14 secondsTV HOST: Kind of spooky. 4 minutes and 14 secondsApocalyptic is probably the right term to use. 4 minutes and 18 secondsYou know, every year they say: "This is the worst fire season ever." 4 minutes and 21 secondsAnd... 4 minutes and 21 seconds...it is. 4 minutes and 22 secondsEvery year builds on the last one it seems like. 4 minutes and 24 secondsTV HOST: Yeah, it really does. 4 minutes and 26 secondsSARAH: The air quality index numbers and stuff, like, 4 minutes and 29 secondsnormal is, like, 25, right? 4 minutes and 32 secondsAnd we were at, like, 145. 4 minutes and 34 secondsRUSTY: 168 here. Down here in Oakland. 4 minutes and 37 secondsWow! 4 minutes and 38 seconds\[NICK CHUCKLES\] 4 minutes and 40 secondsTV HOST: Smoke from the dozens of major wildfires mushroomed 4 minutes and 44 secondsinto thick blankets of clouds so vast they could be seen from space. 4 minutes and 50 secondsBeneath those clouds a suffocating haze. 4 minutes and 54 secondsSan Francisco was bathed in an ominous, toxic glow. 5 minutes and 0 seconds\[TIM HUMS\] 5 minutes and 2 secondsThe sky is not orange right now where I am. 5 minutes and 5 secondsNice. 5 minutes and 7 seconds\[MUSIC\] 5 minutes and 11 secondsTIM: It's good to see you all. 5 minutes and 12 secondsThank you for sticking with the world through this week. 5 minutes and 15 secondsUm... 5 minutes and 16 secondsI know it's been really crazy times. 5 minutes and 19 secondsThis is the first time, I feel like, I ran out into the street and yelled: 5 minutes and 22 seconds"What the hell is happening?" 5 minutes and 23 secondsUh... 5 minutes and 24 seconds\[TIM CHUCKLES\] 5 minutes and 26 secondsI was as surprised by those orange skies as everybody else. 5 minutes and 29 secondsUm... 5 minutes and 31 secondsI don't know what else to say about that stuff, 5 minutes and 33 secondsexcept for that things never stay the same way forever. 5 minutes and 36 secondsWe'll just forget about this year ever happening. 5 minutes and 38 secondsUm... 5 minutes and 39 secondsWe've had a long talk about the schedule 5 minutes and 42 secondswith the leads, and with Andy, and the milestone. 5 minutes and 44 secondsThere is a well-earned trepidation about using the A word. 5 minutes and 48 secondsA lot of the Alphas, the practice Alphas we've had before... 5 minutes and 51 secondsum, that's a joke by the way, I know they were not practice, 5 minutes and 55 seconds...was that we would: "Rush, rush, rush. Let's get our level done. 5 minutes and 58 secondsWe'll get everything done by the deadline. 5 minutes and 59 secondsOkay, it's done! 6 minutes and 0 secondsAnd it's Alpha, because all the features are complete." 6 minutes and 2 secondsBut we would look at it together as a team. 6 minutes and 4 secondsOr I would look at it and be like: "That's not a Psychonauts level. 6 minutes and 7 secondsLike, that's not a good enough level. 6 minutes and 8 secondsThat's not what we said we were going to make." 6 minutes and 10 secondsAnd it would turn that level into turnaround. 6 minutes and 13 secondsIt would go back into design, 6 minutes and 15 secondsand it would get rebooted. 6 minutes and 16 secondsYou know, Hollis was a big example of that. 6 minutes and 18 secondsWhere we just, like-- 6 minutes and 19 secondsI really wanted to do something, um... stranger and weirder with that. 6 minutes and 22 secondsAnd the thing I can say now, while looking at the game, 6 minutes and 25 secondsis there is no level I feel that way about now. 6 minutes and 27 secondsEvery level to me is approved as far as, like the-- 6 minutes and 32 secondsthe basic thing that it is. 6 minutes and 33 secondsIt just needs to be polished and improved. 6 minutes and 35 secondsThere is no level that I would look at now and say, like: "We should reboot it." 6 minutes and 38 secondsAnd if anyone disagrees with me, we can talk about it. 6 minutes and 39 seconds\[INDISTINCT CHATTER\] 6 minutes and 42 secondsI thought that Moira was like: 6 minutes and 43 seconds"Well, I just thought of something that's not complete!" 6 minutes and 45 seconds\[MUSIC\] 6 minutes and 47 secondsTIM: Oh my god! This is the greatest thing in the game! 6 minutes and 50 secondsThis is the best! 6 minutes and 51 secondsWow, that looks great! 6 minutes and 52 seconds-TIM: Wow! -CAMDEN: Wow, that's good! 6 minutes and 53 secondsYeah, Kristen did a really good job on this. 6 minutes and 56 secondsTIM: Look at that! Oh my god! 6 minutes and 57 secondsThat's like the most Psychonautical moment right there. 7 minutes and 1 secondLook at that impossible corner! 7 minutes and 3 seconds\[MUSIC\] 7 minutes and 7 secondsTIM: Okay, there we go! All right. 7 minutes and 9 secondsFirst of all, wow! Those barfing effects are crazy! 7 minutes and 12 secondsAll right, what am I-- How do I play video games? 7 minutes and 15 secondsGEOFF: Also, Paul, the music in the boss fight is amazing. 7 minutes and 17 secondsI love it. 7 minutes and 18 secondsPAUL: Sweet! Yeah. It's only going to get better. 7 minutes and 20 secondsIt looks so much better! 7 minutes and 22 secondsTIM: It looks like Hollis. 7 minutes and 23 secondsYeah. 7 minutes and 24 secondsTIM: But now, um, we've split the level teams up. 7 minutes and 26 secondsAnd people are off in these different corners, 7 minutes and 28 secondsjust polishing things here and there. 7 minutes and 29 secondsSo, as you play the game, you all of a sudden come up 7 minutes and 31 secondson this beautiful thing that wasn't there before. 7 minutes and 35 secondsThis is pretty. 7 minutes and 37 secondsTIM: And you are like: "Who did that?" 7 minutes and 38 secondsIt's like they are little elves, 7 minutes and 39 secondsroaming around doing good work. 7 minutes and 41 secondsThat's a pretty little ship. 7 minutes and 43 secondsYeah, little details like hair shavings on the ground everywhere, 7 minutes and 48 secondswhich is really helping kind of blend it in. 7 minutes and 52 secondsCool. 7 minutes and 54 secondsCAMDEN: We are in this weird place where... 7 minutes and 57 secondsthe whole game is kind of coming in for a landing. 7 minutes and 59 secondsUh, other than-- we are going to be hitting 8 minutes and 1 seconda whole ton of cutscenes. 8 minutes and 2 secondsAnd continuing to make the game sound cool. 8 minutes and 7 secondsCAMDEN: It's going to be a bitchin' game. 8 minutes and 8 secondsI think this game is going to be really good. 8 minutes and 10 secondsUm... 8 minutes and 11 secondsThere is a lot of stuff that's not quite right. 8 minutes and 13 secondsAnd it needs to be tuned or it needs to be fixed. 8 minutes and 17 secondsIt's still doing the ricochet, huh? 8 minutes and 20 secondsWeird. 8 minutes and 21 secondsTIM: What's wrong with Raz's eyeballs? 8 minutes and 23 secondsThe eyeball thing... 8 minutes and 24 seconds\[TIM LAUGHS\] 8 minutes and 25 secondsSorry. 8 minutes and 26 secondsKEE: Ooh, that looks bad. 8 minutes and 27 secondsOh, boy. 8 minutes and 30 secondsAnd Lili's documents are in her heart. 8 minutes and 33 seconds\[TIM SCREAMS\] 8 minutes and 34 secondsLook what I can do, look what I can do! 8 minutes and 36 secondsCAMDEN: But I've seen enough of it now and played enough of it now 8 minutes and 40 secondsto understand the game as a whole, as it should be. 8 minutes and 44 secondsAnd if we nail it, it's going to be good. 8 minutes and 47 secondsReally good. 8 minutes and 48 secondsTAZIO: It's a hallway. 8 minutes and 49 secondsAnd then, when you return to that space for this moment, 8 minutes and 52 secondsit'll be inverted. 8 minutes and 54 secondsTIM: Awesome! 8 minutes and 55 secondsThere's been things that I've been just hoping and dreaming 8 minutes and 57 secondsabout seeing in the game for many, uh... 8 minutes and 59 secondsmany years, honestly. 9 minutes and 0 secondsAnd then you see them, and you are like: 9 minutes and 2 seconds"Oh my god! It's really happening." 9 minutes and 4 secondsUm, other than that, 9 minutes and 5 secondsI just wanted to tell everyone in the art department, 9 minutes and 8 secondsyou guys are kicking ass. 9 minutes and 9 seconds\[LISETTE LAUGHS\] 9 minutes and 10 secondsUm, the game looks really amazing. 9 minutes and 12 secondsUm, and I think if we all just kind of focus on what's important, 9 minutes and 16 secondsand it's each other and our work, 9 minutes and 18 secondsum, I think we'll get through this. 9 minutes and 19 secondsThis has definitely been more, like, a.... 9 minutes and 22 seconds\[MUSIC\] 9 minutes and 23 secondslonelier, uh... 9 minutes and 24 seconds\[CHUCKLES\] 9 minutes and 26 seconds...uh, milestone. 9 minutes and 28 secondsFeeling a bit secluded. 9 minutes and 29 secondsNot feeling, like, connected with the other environment artists 9 minutes and 33 secondsand what's happening on, like... 9 minutes and 36 secondsother stuff. 9 minutes and 37 secondsLike, one man... 9 minutes and 39 seconds...lonely Janice army. 9 minutes and 41 seconds\[CHUCKLING\] 9 minutes and 43 seconds♪ Across the sea ♪ 9 minutes and 45 secondsTAZIO: I didn't do shit today, guys. 9 minutes and 46 secondsI'm terrible. 9 minutes and 48 seconds\[MUSIC\] 9 minutes and 49 secondsYou know, we are all locked in like everybody is locked in. 9 minutes and 52 secondsAnd we are trying to maintain what's fun about working at Double Fine. 9 minutes and 55 secondsAnd that's working with each other. 9 minutes and 58 secondsWhen your beard gets that long, like, that's what you just do, 10 minutes and 0 secondsbecause you are not used to it. 10 minutes and 1 second-You do all this kind of shit. -Really? 10 minutes and 3 seconds-Yeah. -You forget that it was there. 10 minutes and 5 secondsAnd then your fingers kind of get lost in it. 10 minutes and 7 secondsNICK: I was just going to say, I'm going to embarrass Jared Mills! 10 minutes and 9 secondsHe is having a baby this weekend! 10 minutes and 10 seconds\[CHEERING\] 10 minutes and 13 secondsBaby. 10 minutes and 15 secondsBebe. 10 minutes and 16 secondsEMILY: ♪ Jared is going to be a daddy ♪ 10 minutes and 18 secondsRAY: Good luck, Jared. 10 minutes and 19 secondsYou are going to need it. 10 minutes and 20 secondsAnd so, uh... 10 minutes and 22 secondsMonica and Denise have organized a lot of fun things. 10 minutes and 24 secondsLike, on Halloween we actually all went to a drive-in. 10 minutes and 28 secondsHi! I know! It's like: "I recognize that voice!" 10 minutes and 30 seconds\[MUSIC\] 10 minutes and 32 secondsTIM: And we had trick-or-treating on the cars. 10 minutes and 34 secondsPeople have brought their kids. 10 minutes and 35 secondsAnd they wore masks. 10 minutes and 36 secondsAnd they went one at a time. 10 minutes and 37 secondsAnd people put candy out on their hoods. 10 minutes and 39 secondsAnd we watched The Addams Family, and, um... 10 minutes and 41 secondsUncle Fester? 10 minutes and 42 secondsTIM: Uh, and it was really fun. 10 minutes and 43 secondsIt was the first time I'd seen anyone on the team in person. 10 minutes and 47 secondsWe all, like, stood in a circle, 10 minutes and 48 secondskind of far away from each other. 10 minutes and 49 secondsLike: "Hi! How is it going? I like your costume!" 10 minutes and 52 secondsUh, and that was really fun. 10 minutes and 56 secondsASIF: Tim, where did you get those horns? 10 minutes and 57 secondsI'm just not-- I'm not gonna cut them until the end of the project. 11 minutes and 0 seconds\[LAUGHTER\] 11 minutes and 1 secondTIM: Usually I keep them pretty under control. 11 minutes and 4 secondsI don't remember. 11 minutes and 6 secondsTIM: You know, I have this, uh... family. 11 minutes and 8 secondsAnd they are a lot of fun. 11 minutes and 9 secondsAnd I felt bad for my daughter, 11 minutes and 11 secondsso we got these kittens. 11 minutes and 12 secondsAnd it's been just great. 11 minutes and 14 secondsBecause it's been-- It occupies a lot of her time and mind. 11 minutes and 16 secondsJust having kittens running around the house. 11 minutes and 18 secondsUm, and for me, my silly hobbies have actually been keeping me really busy. 11 minutes and 22 secondsI've been working on homebrew games. 11 minutes and 24 secondsAnd... secret... all secret stuff. 11 minutes and 26 seconds\[RHYTHMIC ATARI VIDEO GAME SOUNDS\] 11 minutes and 39 secondsTIM: Light show. Ready? 11 minutes and 41 seconds\[RHYTHMIC ATARI VIDEO GAME SOUNDS\] 11 minutes and 45 secondsOkay, enough of that. 11 minutes and 47 secondsSo, it just happened to hit me that I got really into this one hobby, 11 minutes and 50 secondswhich is perfectly suited for me, 11 minutes and 52 secondslocked in your house all the time. 11 minutes and 53 seconds\[ATARI VIDEO GAME SOUNDS\] 11 minutes and 57 secondsI've been also buying old Vectrex games. 11 minutes and 59 secondsAnd I have a little arcade set up in my garage, 12 minutes and 2 secondswhere I'm down there, playing Vectrex games and drinking. 12 minutes and 4 secondsYou know, being drunk on a Saturday night in your garage, 12 minutes and 7 secondsplaying Vectrex games... 12 minutes and 8 seconds\[CLICKS TONGUE\] 12 minutes and 9 secondsThat's the life. 12 minutes and 10 seconds\[MUSIC\] 12 minutes and 16 seconds\[MUSIC\] 12 minutes and 43 secondsTIM: Well, I feel like, um... 12 minutes and 44 secondsThe interesting thing is that we just don't talk about it that much anymore. 12 minutes and 47 secondsLike, it doesn't come up that we are in quarantine, 12 minutes and 49 secondsor that it's weird. 12 minutes and 50 secondsYou know, everyone is just working. 12 minutes and 51 secondsEveryone is so used to, um... 12 minutes and 53 secondsYou know, we've developed some new, uh... mechanisms 12 minutes and 56 secondsthat are actually good. 12 minutes and 58 secondsLike, I play the game... 12 minutes and 59 secondsGood to see you all. 13 minutes and 0 secondsI will be streaming later. 13 minutes and 1 secondFor anyone that wants to watch that, I'll send out a link. 13 minutes and 3 secondsOtherwise, have a lovely Monday. Bye, everybody! 13 minutes and 6 secondsJust me playing it with the team. 13 minutes and 7 secondsIt's like I'm an internal, uh... game streamer now. 13 minutes and 10 secondsI play the game and I share it in a video conference, 13 minutes and 13 secondsand everybody just watches me play it. 13 minutes and 15 secondsAnd makes comments, and it's recorded. 13 minutes and 18 secondsKEE: This part is super fun. I really like this part. 13 minutes and 21 secondsRUSTY: What is-- What is wrong with you, guys? 13 minutes and 23 seconds\[CHUCKLING\] 13 minutes and 25 secondsI like it too. 13 minutes and 26 secondsI am not going out there. 13 minutes and 27 secondsAre you going to get that half brain? 13 minutes and 28 secondsNo! My ball! 13 minutes and 29 secondsOh, no! 13 minutes and 31 secondsYeah. 13 minutes and 32 secondsThat is funny and that's really mean, but it's hilarious. 13 minutes and 36 secondsYou know everyone is going to put their ball right there. 13 minutes and 38 secondsAnd it's just a good system for me. 13 minutes and 39 secondsFinding bugs, or recording polish tasks. 13 minutes and 42 secondsAnd later when I'm talking about something, 13 minutes and 45 secondsI can refer to the recording. 13 minutes and 46 secondsSee, I don't know about that side path. 13 minutes and 47 secondsDid we talk about that already? 13 minutes and 48 secondsThat the side path should just put you back 13 minutes and 50 secondsinstead of making you skip all this gameplay. 13 minutes and 51 secondsI think that came up once before. 13 minutes and 53 secondsTIM: So, it creates this document 13 minutes and 54 secondsof, like, what I think of the state of the game. 13 minutes and 56 secondsWhich I think is helpful for people, because they just know-- 13 minutes and 58 secondsthey have a sense that there is an infinite amount of work 14 minutes and 0 secondsthat could be done. 14 minutes and 1 secondThey just look at the game-- they are like: 14 minutes and 3 seconds"Wow, there is so much stuff to do." 14 minutes and 5 secondsAnd at least if they see me playing through it, 14 minutes and 7 secondspointing out what I think is, like, the major things to get done, 14 minutes and 10 secondsthey at least have a starting point. 14 minutes and 11 secondsThey are like: "Okay, that's what I'll start working on." 14 minutes and 14 secondsOften when I'm playing this part I forget what I'm supposed to be doing though. 14 minutes and 17 secondsBut the PA should be telling me in a way. 14 minutes and 19 secondsLike: "Go to class!" 14 minutes and 21 seconds\[MUSIC\] 14 minutes and 22 secondsA lot of camera problems right there. 14 minutes and 24 secondsBoom! That should blow up like in Jaws. 14 minutes and 26 secondsI always have trouble with this wall jump, I don't know why. 14 minutes and 30 secondsWe should probably change those flags, maybe if you've beaten that bottle. 14 minutes and 33 secondsOr change the cork. 14 minutes and 35 secondsTIM: And I think it's helpful for people to see-- 14 minutes and 37 secondsYou know, they all worked on these individual parts, 14 minutes and 39 secondsand they've done their best on their own. 14 minutes and 40 secondsLike their model, or their cutscene, or their piece of code. 14 minutes and 43 seconds\[MUSIC\] 14 minutes and 45 secondsDon't jump on my computer, kitten. 14 minutes and 46 secondsAnd then to see them all together as a game, 14 minutes and 49 secondsuh, is just an important moment for the team. 14 minutes and 51 secondsThat was great! You guys, it didn't crash! 14 minutes and 53 secondsWe played through all Cassie. It was fun! 14 minutes and 55 seconds♪ Didn't crash! ♪ 14 minutes and 56 seconds♪ Didn't crash! Didn't crash! ♪ 14 minutes and 58 secondsHow are you doing, Nathan "Bagel" Stapley? 14 minutes and 59 secondsHey! Pretty good! 15 minutes and 0 secondsYeah, just checking out my favorite show. 15 minutes and 3 seconds\[TIM LAUGHS\] 15 minutes and 4 secondsI know. 15 minutes and 5 secondsIt's fun. 15 minutes and 8 secondsGEOFF: Besides a couple of really egregious things, 15 minutes and 12 secondsthat level is a lot closer to Alpha. 15 minutes and 14 secondsUm... 15 minutes and 15 secondsI think it was good to... 15 minutes and 19 secondsgood to see that, 15 minutes and 20 secondsbecause the level is, like, a lot longer. 15 minutes and 24 secondsAnd there is a lot more, like, exploration than I thought it would have. 15 minutes and 28 secondsSo, that's good. 15 minutes and 30 secondsTIM: Oh, it's called? 15 minutes and 32 secondsIs Virginia called? 15 minutes and 34 secondsThat's crazy. 15 minutes and 36 secondsOkay, sorry. 15 minutes and 37 secondsNo big deal. 15 minutes and 38 secondsDemocracy. 15 minutes and 40 secondsThanks for coming, everybody! 15 minutes and 41 secondsThanks for watching. 15 minutes and 43 secondsUh, that's all I have to say. 15 minutes and 45 secondsAnd... 15 minutes and 46 secondsYeah, let's go ahead and just quickly go around. 15 minutes and 50 secondsSilvio, you are first up today. 15 minutes and 53 secondsAll right, um... 15 minutes and 55 secondsI got nothing done yesterday. 15 minutes and 57 secondsI have pretty much just been refreshing Google and Washington Post. 16 minutes and 0 secondsGEOFF: I'm completely ignoring it 16 minutes and 1 seconduntil the results come in. 16 minutes and 3 secondsSILVIO: Except for some numbers that apparently don't go up for-- 16 minutes and 5 secondsfor two fucking days! 16 minutes and 7 secondsLike: "Nevada!" 16 minutes and 9 secondsJAMES: I know we are probably going to keep 16 minutes and 10 secondspolitics out of this meeting, 16 minutes and 12 secondsuh, but Pennsylvania is under a hundred thousand difference now. 16 minutes and 17 secondsThat's the only thing that's been making me feel better. 16 minutes and 19 secondsLike, just that-- 16 minutes and 20 seconds-...that gap closing. -\[PIANO IS BEING PLAYED\] 16 minutes and 22 secondsJAMES: You know, I actually do find it really satisfying to watch the gaps close. 16 minutes and 25 seconds\[PIANO IS BEING PLAYED\] 16 minutes and 37 secondsNice one, Bert! Thanks! 16 minutes and 41 secondsTAZIO: Did I miss The Rhythm of the Night? 16 minutes and 42 seconds\[CHUCKLING\] 16 minutes and 44 secondsTIM: Hello! 16 minutes and 45 secondsHappy Monday! Good to see you all. 16 minutes and 47 secondsUm... 16 minutes and 49 secondsUh... hi. 16 minutes and 51 secondsUm, so, let's see... 16 minutes and 52 secondsI'm trying to think. Do I have any, uh... news? 16 minutes and 55 secondsI don't really have any big news. 16 minutes and 56 secondsThere's been a lot of big news in the world. 16 minutes and 57 secondsI don't want to say... uh, who I voted for. 17 minutes and 0 secondsNo. 17 minutes and 1 secondWho knows what to say about that-- that stuff. 17 minutes and 3 secondsI just felt, like, a huge relief. 17 minutes and 5 secondsI'll just say that. I felt a huge relief. 17 minutes and 8 seconds(It's not over yet.) 17 minutes and 10 seconds(It's not over.) 17 minutes and 12 secondsI remember when, you know, the day after-- 17 minutes and 14 secondsI was so shocked by the last election. 17 minutes and 16 secondsThat's when, um... 17 minutes and 17 secondsThe day after I was like: "What can we do?" 17 minutes and 19 secondsInstead of just tweeting about stuff and being angry all the time, 17 minutes and 21 secondswe started our diversity initiative at the company. 17 minutes and 23 secondsAnd started looking at our recruiting, and our hiring practices, 17 minutes and 27 secondsand how to encourage more diversity in the company. 17 minutes and 30 secondsAnd I feel like it led to a positive change inside of our company. 17 minutes and 33 secondsTo just, you know-- 17 minutes and 34 secondsTo see things going wrong in the outside world, 17 minutes and 36 secondsand to feel, like, helpless to control huge macro things about the world. 17 minutes and 40 secondsLike, we can control-- 17 minutes and 42 seconds"What can I control?" 17 minutes and 43 secondsYou know? I can control what happens at Double Fine. 17 minutes and 45 secondsAnd try and make that better. 17 minutes and 46 secondsHopefully you already know this, 17 minutes and 47 secondsbut we will be having a virtual holiday party this year. 17 minutes and 51 secondsLet me check my calendar. Yep! 17 minutes and 53 secondsYep, got nothing going on. 17 minutes and 55 secondsUh... let's talk about Psychonauts 2. 17 minutes and 57 secondsAndy Alamano, there you are! 17 minutes and 59 seconds-ANDY: Hello. -How is Psychonauts 2 doing? 18 minutes and 1 secondPsychonauts 2 is finishing up its latest milestone... 18 minutes and 5 secondsin a scant two days. 18 minutes and 7 secondsThe end of-- end-of-day Wednesday. 18 minutes and 9 secondsI saw a lot of people still asking the question: "When is this happening?" 18 minutes and 12 secondsEnd-of-day Wednesday! 18 minutes and 14 secondsSo that we can start doing the final assessment 18 minutes and 16 secondsof what it's going to take to get this thing shippable. 18 minutes and 19 secondsYeah, I would say of all the Alphas we've had on this project, 18 minutes and 22 secondsthis is definitely the most recent one. 18 minutes and 24 secondsI always was pushing to just get something playable, 18 minutes and 27 secondsget something playable, get the whole game playable. 18 minutes and 30 secondsAs of this week, we did that. 18 minutes and 32 secondsLike, you can-- All the parts of the game are playable. 18 minutes and 35 secondsSo, it's kind of, like... 18 minutes and 37 seconds\[EXHALES\] 18 minutes and 39 secondsTIM: I want to start with some bad news. 18 minutes and 41 secondsWe have some unfortunate news about a team member 18 minutes and 44 secondswho is leaving the project. 18 minutes and 45 secondsAnd unfortunately it is our Senior Producer, 18 minutes and 47 secondsAndy Alamano. 18 minutes and 49 secondsAnd I know that will come as a big surprise to a lot of people. 18 minutes and 51 secondsUm, but it, uh... 18 minutes and 54 secondsBut Andy has given his notice. 18 minutes and 56 secondsAnd we are going to be making plans for how to finish this game. 19 minutes and 0 secondsUh, yeah, thumbs down from Vic. 19 minutes and 2 secondsYeah-- 19 minutes and 8 secondsANDY: And he froze. 19 minutes and 9 secondsCARYL: Oh, no, Tim froze! 19 minutes and 11 secondsSo... uh, Andy Alamano left. 19 minutes and 14 secondsWe lost our producer, Andy. 19 minutes and 16 secondsI mean, I will say this before we get started, um... 19 minutes and 20 secondsDue to the nature of my departure and-- and my conversations with Tim, 19 minutes and 25 secondsI am going to be very politically correct in this interview. 19 minutes and 29 secondsI'm not going to give you guys a bunch of dirt. 19 minutes and 32 secondsI did have a meeting with Tim which was kind of contentious. 19 minutes and 35 secondsAnd I think there were some feelings that have been hurt. 19 minutes and 38 secondsUm... 19 minutes and 39 secondsI was-- I was very shocked and sad. 19 minutes and 41 secondsBecause it's so close to the end. 19 minutes and 42 secondsAnd he is a very important part of the project, but... 19 minutes and 45 secondsUm... 19 minutes and 47 secondsThat's the way it is. 19 minutes and 48 secondsYou know, it was a tough decision, and-- 19 minutes and 50 secondsBut I'm excited to move on to something else. 19 minutes and 52 secondsAnd it's not like-- 19 minutes and 53 secondsI'm not trying to... screw anyone over, 19 minutes and 56 secondsor burn any bridges, or-- it's nothing against anybody, 19 minutes and 58 secondsit's nothing personal, but it is just a decision that I am-- 20 minutes and 1 secondAfter being here for five years, something else has come along, 20 minutes and 4 secondsand I'm excited, and I'm gonna-- decided to move on. 20 minutes and 7 secondsTotally unrelated maybe, but, like... 20 minutes and 9 seconds1775 to 1780 was exactly five years 20 minutes and 12 secondsthat Benedict Arnold served with George Washington 20 minutes and 14 secondsbefore he, um... betrayed the country, 20 minutes and 16 secondsand was viewed as a traitor for the rest of his life. 20 minutes and 19 seconds-\[RAY LAUGHS\] -TIM: So, completely unrelated. 20 minutes and 20 secondsThat's just something that people should know about... 20 minutes and 22 secondsThe good thing is we have a really strong production team. 20 minutes and 25 secondsAnd, uh, everyone is so... 20 minutes and 27 secondsum... invested, and-- 20 minutes and 30 secondsWell, apparently not Andy. 20 minutes and 31 secondsBut, I mean, everyone else is really, really invested. 20 minutes and 33 secondsWe are Alpha, we are going to get to Beta. 20 minutes and 35 secondsAnd that's the plan. 20 minutes and 36 seconds\[SIGHS\] 20 minutes and 37 secondsEasy as-- right? Like, how hard could it be? 20 minutes and 40 seconds\[AMY CHUCKLES\] 20 minutes and 41 secondsANDY: All the producers here that I've worked with are incredible. 20 minutes and 43 secondsThey are some of the best people I've worked with. 20 minutes and 46 secondsI mean... 20 minutes and 46 secondsThey can do this. 20 minutes and 49 secondsSo, there you have it. 20 minutes and 50 secondsI think everybody is up to speed. 20 minutes and 51 secondsMalena is shaking her head at me. 20 minutes and 53 secondsNo, no. Andy, I am happy for you. 20 minutes and 57 secondsANDY: I mean, even just this week, 20 minutes and 58 secondseven though I was leaving, there were some-- 21 minutes and 0 secondssome things we were looking at, 21 minutes and 2 secondsjust some of the cutscenes, some of the story elements, 21 minutes and 4 secondsplaying and talking with people in a Zoom call or something, 21 minutes and 7 secondsand there is that tinge in me 21 minutes and 9 secondswhere you see people, like: "Oh, this is going to be good!" 21 minutes and 11 secondsI'm like: "Oh, it is going to be good! 21 minutes and 12 secondsOh, I'm leaving! 21 minutes and 14 secondsI don't want to leave! It's going to be good!" 21 minutes and 17 secondsUm... 21 minutes and 18 secondsSo, you know, that happens. 21 minutes and 19 secondsAnd you have to remember those. You have to take those moments. 21 minutes and 21 secondsIt's so easy to forget that. 21 minutes and 24 secondsBut you get somebody-- 21 minutes and 26 secondsa handful of people, and you are playing the game, 21 minutes and 27 secondsand you get excited about just some little moment... 21 minutes and 30 secondsYou know, that's-- that's what it's all about. 21 minutes and 34 secondsHello! 21 minutes and 36 secondsANDY: Hey! 21 minutes and 37 secondsMALENA: Cheers to you! 21 minutes and 39 secondsCheers to me. 21 minutes and 43 secondsOh, that's a... 21 minutes and 44 seconds-That's a good looking glass right there. -Mm-hmm. 21 minutes and 46 secondsCAMDEN: Hey, Andy. 21 minutes and 48 seconds-Before it gets too crazy... -JAMES: Andy, don't go! 21 minutes and 50 secondsJAMES: Please, don't go! 21 minutes and 51 secondsBefore it gets too crazy, man, thank you! 21 minutes and 54 secondsThank you for everything you did. 21 minutes and 56 secondsThank you, Cam. 21 minutes and 57 secondsSo, yeah, that surprised me. 21 minutes and 59 secondsI mean, I-- I knew he was frustrated. 22 minutes and 2 secondsWe all have gone through being frustrated. 22 minutes and 5 secondsI feel for him. And I wish him the best. 22 minutes and 8 secondsI wish he would stay, but... 22 minutes and 10 secondsum, he's been through... 22 minutes and 12 secondsa lot. 22 minutes and 14 secondsI just wanted to let you know that in your honor 22 minutes and 17 secondsI used my extra Grubhub money today 22 minutes and 19 secondsto buy Taco Bell. 22 minutes and 20 secondsOh, yes! 22 minutes and 21 seconds\[LAUGHTER\] 22 minutes and 25 secondsANDY: I'm going to miss-- 22 minutes and 26 secondsI miss it now! 22 minutes and 27 secondsI'll miss going and getting Taco Bell with everybody. 22 minutes and 29 seconds\[PIANO IS BEING PLAYED\] 22 minutes and 30 seconds\[INDISTINCT CHATTERING\] 22 minutes and 34 secondsIt's a little rough going down, but it's kind of good. 22 minutes and 36 seconds\[SPAFF LAUGHS\] 22 minutes and 37 seconds\[INDISTINCT CHATTERING\] 22 minutes and 40 secondsANDY: Whiskey club. 22 minutes and 42 secondsYeah. 22 minutes and 43 secondsI've learned a lot too that, I think, I want-- 22 minutes and 45 secondsthat I will take with me. 22 minutes and 46 secondsAbout kind of how the-- 22 minutes and 48 secondsHow to manage a place, 22 minutes and 49 secondsbut also kind of keep it feeling like a family. 22 minutes and 52 secondsAnd, uh... 22 minutes and 54 secondsI'll miss that. 22 minutes and 57 seconds\[ANDY SIGHS\] 22 minutes and 58 secondsWell... 23 minutes and 0 secondsIt's about six o'clock. 23 minutes and 1 secondI think it's about time. 23 minutes and 3 secondsAll right, Andy wants to go. 23 minutes and 4 secondsI can tell Andy wants to start his new life. 23 minutes and 8 secondsAll things must pass. 23 minutes and 10 secondsYeah, you have three months where you can come back, 23 minutes and 11 secondsand we'll pretend nothing happened. 23 minutes and 13 seconds-Okay, I'll keep that in mind. -\[GEOFF LAUGHS\] 23 minutes and 14 seconds-I might need that! -And after that... 23 minutes and 16 seconds...you have to reapply. 23 minutes and 17 secondsI might-- I might need that. 23 minutes and 19 secondsUm, no. Thanks, everybody. 23 minutes and 21 secondsKevin is going to do the toast. 23 minutes and 22 secondsNo, thank you, Andy. 23 minutes and 24 secondsThank you, Andy! 23 minutes and 26 seconds-Thanks, everyone! -We'll miss you, sir. Cheers! 23 minutes and 27 secondsIt's been an honor, Andy. 23 minutes and 28 secondsYou are a big jerk, Andy! 23 minutes and 31 seconds-Humongous jerk. -I love you too, Tim. 23 minutes and 33 seconds\[CHUCKLING\] 23 minutes and 34 seconds-Bye! -Cheers, everybody. 23 minutes and 36 secondsTake care! I'll be around. 23 minutes and 37 secondsTIM: Um, so, it would have been a great time 23 minutes and 39 secondsto have Andy around, but... 23 minutes and 41 secondsum... 23 minutes and 42 secondswe are going to make the best of it. 23 minutes and 43 secondsJust like we have been doing all year long, 23 minutes and 45 secondsin quarantine. 23 minutes and 47 secondsThis is just 2020 for you. 23 minutes and 49 seconds\[SARAH CHUCKLES\] 23 minutes and 51 secondsSARAH: Think we'd-- 23 minutes and 53 seconds...it wouldn't be this hard. 23 minutes and 55 seconds-Yeah. -You know? 23 minutes and 56 seconds-All this technology... -But you have a dog on your lap, so! 23 minutes and 59 secondsI have a dog on my lap! 24 minutes and 1 secondYes. 24 minutes and 2 secondsTIM: What? 24 minutes and 3 secondsAh, there we go! 24 minutes and 5 seconds-Perfect. -Exactly what I asked for. 24 minutes and 6 secondsYes, my pretty kitty! 24 minutes and 8 seconds-Yes! -No, get out of there! 24 minutes and 10 secondsNo! 24 minutes and 12 secondsYou are so beautiful! 24 minutes and 13 seconds\[LAUGHTER\] 24 minutes and 14 secondsI must touch you with my golden claw! 24 minutes and 17 seconds\[PIANO IS BEING PLAYED\] 24 minutes and 34 secondsHi! Wait, I'm going to move it. 24 minutes and 36 secondsHold on. 24 minutes and 37 seconds-Thank you... -No! 24 minutes and 38 seconds...Denise and Monica for this awesome party. 24 minutes and 40 seconds-No! -Why you don't want to? 24 minutes and 42 seconds-No. -Okay. 24 minutes and 43 secondsTIM: Uh, happy holidays! 24 minutes and 45 secondsIt's so nice to be here with all of you. 24 minutes and 47 secondsUm... 24 minutes and 48 secondsObviously it's been... quite a year. 24 minutes and 50 secondsAnd everyone has said a lot about-- 24 minutes and 52 secondsI don't remember anything that has happened last year. 24 minutes and 53 secondsWe are just going to blank out this whole year, 24 minutes and 55 secondsand just forget all about it. 24 minutes and 56 secondsIt was a, um... 24 minutes and 58 secondsYou know, lots going to be said about this year, 24 minutes and 59 secondsand what a crazy year it was. 25 minutes and 0 secondsAnd we all-- I mean, I felt really lucky to be... 25 minutes and 4 secondsyou know, um, made safe in a lot of ways. 25 minutes and 7 secondsAARON: If we had not sold to Microsoft... 25 minutes and 11 secondswould we all be out of a job right now? 25 minutes and 14 secondsThe company joining Microsoft kept the company safe 25 minutes and 16 secondsduring unstable times, you know. 25 minutes and 19 secondsAnd then, the fact that we are all making this game, 25 minutes and 21 secondsand we technologically were able to keep working on it. 25 minutes and 23 secondsYou know, it kept us safe indoors. 25 minutes and 24 secondsWe didn't-- we weren't required to go out and work 25 minutes and 26 secondslike a nurse or a bus driver. 25 minutes and 28 secondsWe also know that, um... 25 minutes and 30 secondsthere is reason to believe next year is going to be better. 25 minutes and 32 secondsI can think of a couple of reasons why. 25 minutes and 34 secondsADAM: He is right here! 25 minutes and 35 secondsHa-ha! 25 minutes and 36 seconds-Look at him! -Aww! 25 minutes and 38 secondsNICK: Show me the baby! 25 minutes and 40 secondsBaby time! 25 minutes and 42 secondsEMILY: What is she going to become? 25 minutes and 43 secondsWho is she now? 25 minutes and 45 secondsJARED: I don't know. 25 minutes and 48 secondsNow the babies are going to make each other cry. 25 minutes and 50 seconds\[ADAM CHUCKLES\] 25 minutes and 52 secondsThe babies! 25 minutes and 53 secondsAlso, the FDA approved a vaccine today. 25 minutes and 55 secondsJust today. 25 minutes and 57 secondsAnd next year we are going to ship our game. 25 minutes and 59 secondsSo, it's going to be a great year! 26 minutes and 1 secondEBBE: And me and Anna have some news. 26 minutes and 3 secondsTIM: Oh, really? 26 minutes and 4 secondsWe are, uh... pregnant, 26 minutes and 6 secondsand are having a child in April. 26 minutes and 9 seconds\[CHEERING\] 26 minutes and 11 secondsYeah! 26 minutes and 12 seconds\[CHEERING\] 26 minutes and 14 secondsYay, Ebbe and Anna! 26 minutes and 16 secondsCongratulations! 26 minutes and 17 seconds-Awesome! -Woo-hoo! 26 minutes and 19 secondsWow! 26 minutes and 20 seconds\[PIANO IS BEING PLAYED\] 26 minutes and 34 seconds\[CLAPPING\] 26 minutes and 36 secondsKEVIN: Go, Bert! 26 minutes and 38 secondsBravo! 26 minutes and 39 secondsMore! 26 minutes and 41 secondsWoo! 26 minutes and 42 secondsTAZIO: Bert, that was fantastic! 26 minutes and 45 secondsKermit, the frog! 26 minutes and 47 secondsKEE: These figments, uh... 26 minutes and 48 seconds...look like dicks. They look like dicks. 26 minutes and 50 secondsYes, they do! 26 minutes and 52 secondsI feel like I already put that in the playthrough. 26 minutes and 53 seconds-They are a penis. -I forgot about that. 26 minutes and 56 secondsSee, it's the cleft in the bottom between the two... 26 minutes and 59 secondsuh, base hemispheres, you know? 27 minutes and 2 seconds-LISETTE: Noted. -RAY: I think it's the wiggling. 27 minutes and 5 seconds\[NAOKO LAUGHS\] [NAOKO LAUGHS] Show transcript timestamps